# Variant and regional pronunciations and unknown sounds

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**Category:** Learning Taioanese\
**Created:** [2021 正月 25 17:52 UTC](https://chiahpa.be/t/variant-and-regional-pronunciations-and-unknown-sounds/648 "2021-01-25T17:52:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![còwbāy](https://chiahpa.be/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@còwbāy](https://chiahpa.be/u/c%C3%B2wb%C4%81y)\
**Post date:** [2021 正月 25 17:52 UTC](https://chiahpa.be/t/variant-and-regional-pronunciations-and-unknown-sounds/648/1 "2021-01-25T17:52:24Z")

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When I look at variant pronunciations, sometimes I see things I'm not familiar with. For example looking up 妹 gives "bēr" on the MOE dictionary, and "bō̤" on FHL dictionary. I'm not familiar with "r" and "o̤" (two dots below).

Can someone provide a link with explanations or examples of those specific sounds, or a more comprehensive pronunciation guide of all the things that, I assume, stray from the mixed Taiwanese standard and get closer to the Choan and Chiang end of the spectrum?

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**Author:** ![Kongthui](https://chiahpa.be/user_avatar/chiahpa.be/kongthui/32/164_2.png) [@Kongthui](https://chiahpa.be/u/Kongthui)\
**Post date:** [2021 正月 25 18:27 UTC](https://chiahpa.be/t/variant-and-regional-pronunciations-and-unknown-sounds/648/2 "2021-01-25T18:27:02Z")

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> **[Hokkien | Phonology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkien#Phonology)**
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> Hokkien has one of the most diverse phoneme inventories among Chinese varieties, with more consonants than Standard Mandarin and Cantonese. Vowels are more-or-less similar to that of Standard Mandarin. Hokkien varieties retain many pronunciations that are no longer found in other Chinese varieties. These include the retention of the /t/ initial, which is now /tʂ/ (Pinyin 'zh') in Mandarin (e.g. 'bamboo' 竹 is tik, but zhú in Mandarin), having disappeared before the 6th century in other Chinese var...

The table before "Initials".

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**Author:** ![Kongthui](https://chiahpa.be/user_avatar/chiahpa.be/kongthui/32/164_2.png) [@Kongthui](https://chiahpa.be/u/Kongthui)\
**Post date:** [2021 正月 25 18:28 UTC](https://chiahpa.be/t/variant-and-regional-pronunciations-and-unknown-sounds/648/3 "2021-01-25T18:28:10Z")

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But I say you should ignore those and focus on the prestigious dialect.

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**Author:** ![còwbāy](https://chiahpa.be/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b5a626/32.png) [@còwbāy](https://chiahpa.be/u/c%C3%B2wb%C4%81y)\
**Post date:** [2021 正月 25 19:05 UTC](https://chiahpa.be/t/variant-and-regional-pronunciations-and-unknown-sounds/648/4 "2021-01-25T19:05:04Z")

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Turns out both er and o̤ represent the same sound /ə/, just written in TL and POJ. I'm not really trying to "learn" this, I just wanted to unconfuse myself. To-siā--lí!`

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**Author:** ![Theo](https://chiahpa.be/user_avatar/chiahpa.be/theo/32/541_2.png) [@Theo](https://chiahpa.be/u/Theo)\
**Post date:** [2021 正月 28 03:41 UTC](https://chiahpa.be/t/variant-and-regional-pronunciations-and-unknown-sounds/648/5 "2021-01-28T03:41:47Z")

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詳細答案參考cia, [無標題文件](http://www.ntcu.edu.tw/tailo/g_in/form/f_04.html)  
另外愛補充, 有時解特別用/or/來表達台南腔 or /好/  
夭擱有o̤ 值潮州話POJ是 開嘴o